So, looking at the Stance Checks in Patch'd Up, Test of Caution seems kind of unbalanced in terms of Skills.
Increasing your Die pool in any way is counterproductive. Whereas getting a +2 almost guarantees you will not get a full failure. Zen style passes automatically.
Hey, I'm interested in eventually getting this game but I'm mainly waiting for the big update before I get it. Is there any update on that front? I remember being recommended this system in a video I watched and I look forward to reading and running it.
Page 25 of the Patch'd Up PDF under Edges Rework states:
"When you enter a Pit from Forced Movement, however, that push or pull immediately ends, then you take 2 Fall damage. If a Pit is placed directly under you, you take 2 Fall damage. Fall damage cannot be reduced or prevented by any means."
And then page 26 under Armor Rework states:
"Armor is a once per turn, automatic block. The first time each turn that you take damage, if you have Armor, reduce that damage by 3. This can apply to any type of damage, including Fall damage, burning token damage, Super Move damage, or damage dealt by a Trap."
Does this (potentially) conflicting information mean that:
1) The Fall damage from Pits specifically cannot be reduced.
Is there a rough timeline on when the "Patch'd Up" changes will be edited into the main PDF? I'm interested in the game but trying to parse the main book with the separate errata document seems potentially messy.
Thank you. I was looking a little at the PDF after purchasing it but if it's that soon I'll probably just wait to redownload and enjoy the edited version.
Question, I noticed some of the archetype's styles were cut off to where I can only see their names, is that a mistake or an issue with my PDF reader of choice, in which case I use Adobe Acrobat Reader. This info btw I'm bringing up is from the patched up version. Also does blaster form no longer provide a range increase outside of amplify?
Edit: Does Flashy style still provide its passive of combining two rolls together or was that removed?
The Patch'd Up version of the rules only includes changes from the core book. Any styles printed as just their name had no changes, other than gaining the new tags or in a few cases, having their Range adjusted.
So Flashy and Blaster still have all the same Abilities they do in the core book, but the only part of them that changed is their Actions.
Odd question and figured I'd ask while it was still on my mind, I saw the document note that you can make copies you have perform an action you initiate, but does that mean the copy inherits your current range to perform said action, or can a copy only perform that action while within your current range?
For example, if I initiated the "Now You See Me..." ability from Phantom and had a copy range 4 away from me, would that copy actually be able to use the ability? If so, would it be able to do so within range 3 of itself, or just within range 3 of me?
Copies use your Stance's current range. Basically, when you perform an Action through a copy, perform it as if you were standing in the copy's space until the Action is over. You don't actually move to that space, but it makes it easy to visualize how things function.
Question about Wild Form and Ten Thousand Style, when it says add action dice, it shows the number on the die. Is it saying add the die itself meaning you roll those dice again, or does it add the number of that die to your action dice pool?
I recently found out about this game and it sounds super interesting! Is it better to purchase through this site or DTRPG? Also, do we have to manually keep track of what the patch updates change in the corebook, or does it implement in the PDF?
Much appreciated! So if we purchase it now (and aren’t planning on getting a physical copy), will we get an email update of the download link for the new PDF version or something? If so, would you advise buying through itch.io or DTRPG?
Itch will send you an update when the game updates (depending on your settings) and you'll be able to redownload it. I expect DTRPG to do the same, but I hear Itch gives creators more money from the sales
Stepnix was correct on all counts. You'll get the updated PDF for free, you just need to come back to itch or DTRPG to download the update when it comes out. And I do get a bigger cut from itch.io, so if you do not intend to purchase a physical copy, it is better to get your digital copy here.
I am currently updating the game. A new version of the print book will be available once I am done with updates - I'd expect it to be available in September.
How does the Bleeding style interact with multiple health bars? By the strictest interpretation, a solo boss who's reduced to 0 hit points while in Bleeding style would lose immediately, with no regard for remaining health bar, but the other interpretation I can think of, that the ability doesn't activate until you're on your last health bar, means it doesn't benefit a solo boss at all and is proportionally weaker the more health bars the character has.
A solo boss does not benefit from the Bleeding Ability at all, no. Once at zero HP on their last health bar, their side has no remaining units and they lose.
I bought the game on Drivethrough yesterday and i noticed a big problem for me. It seems that the action dice section of the forms uses only images, which makes the product unplayable for a blind gamer such as myself.
can an edit be made in the near future to make theese sections accessible;
First of all; love the game. It's the most engaging combat system I've ever met.
Now the questions: 1. I was reading through the errata and noticed Halcyon style doesn't specify the category of tokens it can remove and can target "someone". Does this mean I can target an enemy and remove their rare tokens?
2. The new Singing Style's ability doesn't specify the range- it just says "all enemies". Given that you've done a lot of errata to add ranges other places this seems odd. Was that deliberate (and means what it says- i.e. "screw everybody on the other team") or an omission?
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So I ended up paying a second time just to download. Was that supposed to happen for 2e?
No, absolutely not
So, looking at the Stance Checks in Patch'd Up, Test of Caution seems kind of unbalanced in terms of Skills.
Increasing your Die pool in any way is counterproductive. Whereas getting a +2 almost guarantees you will not get a full failure. Zen style passes automatically.
Is the creator okay? The radio silence is a little concerning.
They're more active on the discord
Hey, I'm interested in eventually getting this game but I'm mainly waiting for the big update before I get it. Is there any update on that front? I remember being recommended this system in a video I watched and I look forward to reading and running it.
I’ve been wondering the exact same thing. Hopefully we get an update soon.
Page 25 of the Patch'd Up PDF under Edges Rework states:
"When you enter a Pit from Forced Movement, however, that push or pull immediately ends, then you take 2 Fall damage. If a Pit is placed directly under you, you take 2 Fall damage. Fall damage cannot be reduced or prevented by any means."
And then page 26 under Armor Rework states:
"Armor is a once per turn, automatic block. The first time each turn that you take damage, if you have Armor, reduce that damage by 3. This can apply to any type of damage, including Fall damage, burning token damage, Super Move damage, or damage dealt by a Trap."
Does this (potentially) conflicting information mean that:
1) The Fall damage from Pits specifically cannot be reduced.
2) Fall damage cannot be reduced.
3) Fall damage cannot be reduced except by Armor.
#3 is the answer, I need to update the Pits description to match the new effect of Armor.
Try reaching out on twitter it maybe the best place
Twitter or the Discord is probably the best way to reach them. I'll post a picture of your comment in Discord.
Sure, delete it. Thanks!
Is there a rough timeline on when the "Patch'd Up" changes will be edited into the main PDF? I'm interested in the game but trying to parse the main book with the separate errata document seems potentially messy.
As of today the current working timeframe is this time next week. This could very well change tho
Thank you. I was looking a little at the PDF after purchasing it but if it's that soon I'll probably just wait to redownload and enjoy the edited version.
Any update on the release?
Question, I noticed some of the archetype's styles were cut off to where I can only see their names, is that a mistake or an issue with my PDF reader of choice, in which case I use Adobe Acrobat Reader. This info btw I'm bringing up is from the patched up version. Also does blaster form no longer provide a range increase outside of amplify?
Edit: Does Flashy style still provide its passive of combining two rolls together or was that removed?
The Patch'd Up version of the rules only includes changes from the core book. Any styles printed as just their name had no changes, other than gaining the new tags or in a few cases, having their Range adjusted.
So Flashy and Blaster still have all the same Abilities they do in the core book, but the only part of them that changed is their Actions.
Odd question and figured I'd ask while it was still on my mind, I saw the document note that you can make copies you have perform an action you initiate, but does that mean the copy inherits your current range to perform said action, or can a copy only perform that action while within your current range?
For example, if I initiated the "Now You See Me..." ability from Phantom and had a copy range 4 away from me, would that copy actually be able to use the ability? If so, would it be able to do so within range 3 of itself, or just within range 3 of me?
Copies use your Stance's current range. Basically, when you perform an Action through a copy, perform it as if you were standing in the copy's space until the Action is over. You don't actually move to that space, but it makes it easy to visualize how things function.
Question about Wild Form and Ten Thousand Style, when it says add action dice, it shows the number on the die. Is it saying add the die itself meaning you roll those dice again, or does it add the number of that die to your action dice pool?
It adds the dice itself, so you will roll that die as part of your action dice
Thank you so much, was just curious.
I recently found out about this game and it sounds super interesting! Is it better to purchase through this site or DTRPG? Also, do we have to manually keep track of what the patch updates change in the corebook, or does it implement in the PDF?
The errata will be added to the core book soon, at the moment they're separate docs though
Much appreciated! So if we purchase it now (and aren’t planning on getting a physical copy), will we get an email update of the download link for the new PDF version or something? If so, would you advise buying through itch.io or DTRPG?
Itch will send you an update when the game updates (depending on your settings) and you'll be able to redownload it. I expect DTRPG to do the same, but I hear Itch gives creators more money from the sales
Stepnix was correct on all counts. You'll get the updated PDF for free, you just need to come back to itch or DTRPG to download the update when it comes out. And I do get a bigger cut from itch.io, so if you do not intend to purchase a physical copy, it is better to get your digital copy here.
I might be stupid but how do we get the patchd up version?
It is in the Demo downloads section.
Hi, uhh, the download button in the Demo section leads to a void(0), so... can't download the file.
It works fine for me? Just a standard left click
I just want to say this idea rocks and I'll be buying the game on my next paycheck
Will there be a Character Sheet available soon?
My group uses this Google Sheet to handle character sheets. Hope it helps.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Er2Fv3VTVh6X4-zIpkXysGof5VqCc37W7c3LF85O...
Hiya! It says the game is available for print through DTRPG, but it only looks like the PDF is available? Any chance a second print run will happen?
I am currently updating the game. A new version of the print book will be available once I am done with updates - I'd expect it to be available in September.
Sounds good!! Absolutely adore this game and its systems BTW ~ Very very excited to own it in print at some point!
How does the Bleeding style interact with multiple health bars? By the strictest interpretation, a solo boss who's reduced to 0 hit points while in Bleeding style would lose immediately, with no regard for remaining health bar, but the other interpretation I can think of, that the ability doesn't activate until you're on your last health bar, means it doesn't benefit a solo boss at all and is proportionally weaker the more health bars the character has.
A solo boss does not benefit from the Bleeding Ability at all, no. Once at zero HP on their last health bar, their side has no remaining units and they lose.
I bought the game on Drivethrough yesterday and i noticed a big problem for me. It seems that the action dice section of the forms uses only images, which makes the product unplayable for a blind gamer such as myself.
can an edit be made in the near future to make theese sections accessible;
Yes, I will make an edit for you. My apologies
First of all; love the game. It's the most engaging combat system I've ever met.
Now the questions:
1. I was reading through the errata and noticed Halcyon style doesn't specify the category of tokens it can remove and can target "someone". Does this mean I can target an enemy and remove their rare tokens?
2. The new Singing Style's ability doesn't specify the range- it just says "all enemies". Given that you've done a lot of errata to add ranges other places this seems odd. Was that deliberate (and means what it says- i.e. "screw everybody on the other team") or an omission?
1: Yes, the higher tiers of Purify can remove rare tokens.
2: Yes, singing style's Ability debuffs everyone on the enemy team, just like Song Form's Ability buffs everyone on your team.